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Got Trolls? Usenet-style killfile for lj comments
In many ways, people often use blogs in ways similar to what usenet was used for back in the day. That is to say, some of the common behavior patterns appear to have shown up again in blog comment threads that used to show up in usenet.
Specifically, I'm talking about trolls - people who show up in a comment thread to derail the discussion, and do so again and again and again. Examples might include someone who shows up in the comment threads of a blog discussing recent work in microbiology to argue yet again for Intelligent Design theory to be taught in the schools, or someone who shows up repeatedly on a feminist-oreinted blog to snipe about how a woman who is raped after voluntarily consuming alcohol deserves what happened to her.
Trolls are not necessarily bad people, (though some probably are) but they are behaving obnoxiously in context. In usenet days, there was something known as a "killfile" which would cause your news reader to simply not display posts from users you didn't like for one reason or anthoer. Wouldn't it be nice if you, the blog reader, could simply mark certain commentors as annoying, and automatically have their blog comments hidden when you looked at your favorite blog's comments page?
Well now you can
That is, you can if you are using Firefox to browse the web and feel like installing a few things. First off, go install the latest version of greasemonkey. Then, go install this greasemonkey script. This provides the ability to ignore people on some weblogs where I wanted that ability. So far, it covers:
It's pretty easy to add a new blog at this point, assuming that the HTML around comments is well structured, so expect the list of supported blogs to grow. Among other things, I intend to add support for comments hosted at haloscan.com (which covers several big blogs, such as Eschaton and Digby's blog) by the time the weekend is over.
Specifically, I'm talking about trolls - people who show up in a comment thread to derail the discussion, and do so again and again and again. Examples might include someone who shows up in the comment threads of a blog discussing recent work in microbiology to argue yet again for Intelligent Design theory to be taught in the schools, or someone who shows up repeatedly on a feminist-oreinted blog to snipe about how a woman who is raped after voluntarily consuming alcohol deserves what happened to her.
Trolls are not necessarily bad people, (though some probably are) but they are behaving obnoxiously in context. In usenet days, there was something known as a "killfile" which would cause your news reader to simply not display posts from users you didn't like for one reason or anthoer. Wouldn't it be nice if you, the blog reader, could simply mark certain commentors as annoying, and automatically have their blog comments hidden when you looked at your favorite blog's comments page?
Well now you can
That is, you can if you are using Firefox to browse the web and feel like installing a few things. First off, go install the latest version of greasemonkey. Then, go install this greasemonkey script. This provides the ability to ignore people on some weblogs where I wanted that ability. So far, it covers:
- livejournal, though I haven't tested all the obscure different styles available there yet.
- pharyngula, and other blogs hosted on scienceblogs.com
- slacktivist, and other blogs on typepad.com
- The Panda's Thumb
- Alas, A Blog
- Feministe
It's pretty easy to add a new blog at this point, assuming that the HTML around comments is well structured, so expect the list of supported blogs to grow. Among other things, I intend to add support for comments hosted at haloscan.com (which covers several big blogs, such as Eschaton and Digby's blog) by the time the weekend is over.
Update: Haloscan-based comments are now handled, as are livejournal community and syndicated feed pages. (Which were only excluded because of a bug before)
Update again: Pandagon is now covered and there is experimental support for killfiling people from your livejournal friendslist (e.g. if you like to read a community except for one particular poster). Note that the friendslist support is disabled by default; to enable it you'll have to edit the script to remove the comment markers inside the variable "scenariolist" from the beginning of the line that says "ljfriendsScenario". (You can edit installed scripts from the "Tools-Manage User Scripts..." menu)
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At the moment, my theory is that firefox and chrome view the html slightly differently. Both take the html that comes from the server and internally canonicalize it - add missing closing tags, that sort of thing - but they fix it in slightly different ways. Something about what chrome is doing causes the script to crash and stop running partway down the page.
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